19:10:24 From JiselleA : Hello Professor, 19:12:52 From JiselleA : Question: For paper 1 are we to create a new work cited or do we use the same one we submitted and just add to it? 19:13:23 From tichure : Hi Jiselle. You’re using the one that you submitted and you either delete what you don’t use or you add new stuff. 19:13:45 From tichure : Basically the Annotated work cited was a work in progress that helps you to establish that there are resources to be found. 19:13:58 From tichure : in fact, it is likely that you’re going to use some of the resources you found on the later version of the paper that you don't use on this first version. 19:14:51 From tichure : What is your primary source? 19:14:57 From tichure : What are you doing your paper on? 19:18:01 From JiselleA : Death of a Salesman using Cultural criticism and Biographical criticism for Paper 1 19:18:09 From tichure : Explain biographical criticism. 19:19:41 From JiselleA : Biographical criticism is how the authur relates their life though their work only up until that work was created. 19:21:35 From tichure : Essentially you are correct. 19:21:42 From tichure : What aspect of this story is autobiographical for the author? 19:21:54 From tichure : Was the author ever a salesman or the son of salesman? Did the author or his father commit suicide? 19:22:13 From tichure : Or is it more that the author’s experience, his family’s experience, during the Great Depression caused him to have certain political views in which he created a fictional story that demonstrates those views? 19:23:01 From JiselleA : Example: Arthur Miller was married to Marilyn Monroe. Be he met her while still married and all right around the same time he wrote Death of a Salesman.... it kind of shows in the affair Willy Loman had in the play. 19:23:39 From tichure : yes, but his experience with Monroe happened AFTER the story was written 19:24:07 From tichure : For the later draft of your paper, we can discuss how elements of the character are reflections of the author’s own proclivities, but that’s psychoanalytic Criticism. 19:24:16 From tichure : Biographical criticism is literal and has to do with what the author has already done. 19:24:38 From tichure : What it sounds like you want to talk about is really Marxist criticism, in which you explain how events and issues formed the author’s attitudes and beliefs and he created a fictional work in order to express those beliefs. 19:25:03 From tichure : Biographical criticism would require that you can put actual events from the author’s life and actual events within the story… Most of the story… Together. An example of that would be those people doing “dear mama” in which the story is literally autobiographical. 19:26:22 From tichure : Do you see the distinction? 19:26:36 From JiselleA : yes, i get it now. 19:27:27 From tichure : so what you will do is use the authors family experience with bankruptcy, as well as Miller’s beliefs that the economic system favors those who have money and who control the worker. His primary character is not entirely sympathetic, being a person of questionable morals. However, that is part of Miller’s point. He’s saying that the average Joe, warts and all, is being manipulated and ultimately discarded by society. 19:29:02 From tichure : If you want to develop paragraph even further, you can add elements of classic Marxist class struggle, with Willy Loman’s boss being the bourgeoisie and of course Willie himself being the proletariat. Willie tries to raise up to a higher level and the bourgeoisie knocks him back down. He tries to maintain a higher level through borrowing ( buying on credit as well as from Charlie the next door neighbor) in order to beer to be part of that bourgeoisie, but it all comes crashing down when the debts come due. 19:29:20 From tichure : you also see a reversal of that when the kids were young. When Biff was the quarterback and captain of the football team. 19:29:48 From tichure : In that world, he was the bourgeoisie, with power and influence in girls. It was Charlie’s son, who was supposed to be tutoring him but in actuality was doing his homework, who was at the lower echelon. When they’re adults, the roles are reversed. 19:29:53 From JiselleA : so if its not an actual fact but it maybe something Miller might want secretly wanted, would be psychoanalyrical. 19:30:24 From tichure : Biff Is barely employed in a dying industry while the kid he pushed around as a child is now going to testify in front of the Supreme Court of the United States. 19:31:47 From tichure : Yes. Psychoanalytical criticism on an author will show that their art, whether it is painting or movies or stories or poetry, can be predictive of future behaviors and reveals desires that are later revealed in the authors actual life. Certainly we can see that in the work of Kurt Cobain, which talks of guns and suicide. We can see this with Poe, with with his discussions of alcoholism and Early death. It works in your story as well. 19:32:01 From tichure : Your evidence for psychoanalytical will be the fact that the author eventually carries through with what is shown in the story that was written before the event happened. 19:32:22 From tichure : But you can use that on the draft due at the end of the semester. Marxist and cultural are good starts for the first draft. 19:33:12 From tichure : So tell me what cultural criticism you’re going to use. Which culture will you translate the work through? 19:33:16 From JiselleA : It may be very weak but I was going for more of the American Dream is not what it is "advertised" as and how Happiness and culture go hand in hand. 19:34:42 From tichure : Well cultural criticism is a bit more specific than that. Cultural criticism requires that you identify specific culture, such as a religion, ethnicity or other culture (a group of people bound by a belief system) and you translate the work through their values, using resources from that culture to explain how they would respond to things like pride, greed, the treatment of women, etc. 19:35:17 From JiselleA : got it 19:35:29 From tichure : so for example, if you were to choose a very conservative culture, such as Republicans or a conservative Christian or Muslim religion, they would have problems with Willie’s behavior with the WOMAN who is described in story. They would also have some problems with the disrespect that the sons have toward their father. 19:36:19 From tichure : They might not have a problem, depending on whether you choose an economic-based belief system, such as fiscal conservatives, with whether or not there is any problem with the business simply firing Willie and letting him go without any support. It’s very possible, especially if they do not believe in social supports, that they would not care about that particular element. 19:37:07 From tichure : You choose a single cultural viewpoint, clearly identified in the topic sentence and you use resources from that do to your culture that talks about the issues brought up in order for YOU to determine whether they would agree with the author’s presentation of the issue (do these things really occur) and the author’s editorial (whether they agree with the author’s ideas that the capitalist system basically cheats those of us at the lower end). 19:39:43 From JiselleA : if I wanted to compare the American Culture to other countries cultures that wouldn't see the Ameican Dream as having the best refrigerator or paying off a house, Should I specifically choose one country? 19:40:02 From tichure : yes 19:40:24 From JiselleA : got it. 19:40:51 From tichure : and you have to choose a country that has such a monochromatic viewpoint. It is far more likely you would choose a specific president or prime minister or era within the country to determine whether or not they would have a problem with, for example, having no safety net for individuals with no income, which was the case in the United States into the 40s but obviously more socialist countries and even in our country today, does not exist. 19:41:36 From tichure : and of course this really gets down to your secondary sources. 19:42:09 From tichure : If you can find the resources that explain what that culture believes and feels about the broad range of issues brought up in this story, which includes parent-child relationships, husband-wife relationships, extramarital affairs, economics, job security etc., then you’re good to go. 19:42:19 From tichure : Religions have commentary about this stuff. 19:42:24 From tichure : Political groups have commentary about this stuff. 19:42:30 From tichure : It makes for easy research. 19:42:48 From tichure : Keep in mind that you can’t simply say “Christian” because that’s too broad. That covers everybody from the Universalists on one side to that church in Kansas that goes around protesting at the funerals of military. 19:43:20 From tichure : Find a specific Christian or specific Muslim or specific sect of Hinduism in which you can narrow down their beliefs on these topics and of course you want to make sure that the group that you’ve chosen is the cultural lens actually cares about the issues that are brought up in the play 19:44:02 From tichure : the same goes for cultures. Latino is too broad. Middle class is too broad. You have to narrow it to a socioeconomic, often religious-based cultural viewpoint that is more bound within politics often than it is about the specifics of the culture as an ethnicity. 19:44:12 From JiselleA : I understand. I definitely need to dig a little deeper and revise some things. Thank you very much for the explanations. 19:44:46 From tichure : No problem. That’s why I’m here. If you have any questions especially about the cultural response, perhaps deciding between one or two of them or running something by me, I will be here in until 9 o’clock. Always send me an email. 19:44:55 From tichure : You can always send me an email. 19:45:03 From tichure : Anything else I can help you with? 19:45:10 From JiselleA : yes 19:45:22 From tichure : Go for it 19:46:24 From JiselleA : So Paper 1 is going to be like the first 4-5 pages of our final paper? Correct? We are to memorize this for our final? 19:51:24 From tichure : when I talk about the final paper, it’s not a test. It’s a paper that is the two paragraphs you do for me for tomorrow and then to additional paragraphs for a total of four body paragraphs, plus the introduction and the conclusion 19:51:39 From tichure : You do not have to memorize anything. 19:52:16 From tichure : the test is a different issue, but you don’t memorize anything there either. You’re bringing in the poem you’re analyzing plus your secondary sources, printed out. You will know in advance what you’re going to write about and you bring in the material in order to write it under a timed condition. 19:53:20 From JiselleA : got it.. 19:53:21 From tichure : in fact, the test is posted on canvas now. 19:53:39 From JiselleA : great I will take a look 19:53:47 From tichure : If you have any questions, let me know. 19:54:06 From tichure : In the meantime, work on that Marxist and cultural analysis for the paper and let me know if you have any questions. 19:55:03 From JiselleA : Will do. Thanks again. 19:55:08 From tichure : You’re welcome.