bionicspider has joined the conference. t_ra_ce has joined the conference. stichure: hey now t_ra_ce: hello bionicspider: yo stichure: still loading stichure: Let's talk about test two bionicspider: ok t_ra_ce: okay stichure: How did it go? t_ra_ce: i finished was grateful for that bionicspider: I think I did ok stichure: Did you discuss irony or symbolism bionicspider: Can we pick them up? bionicspider: I did 2 ironies and 1 symbol t_ra_ce: i discussed both -- in corrolation to one another stichure: Yes... I drop them off today stichure: Then let's start with what you guys wrote... stichure: Who wants to go first? bionicspider: ok stichure: Spider your up.... bionicspider: Give me 1 sec. t_ra_ce: cool ... off the hook bionicspider: Well, don't know if this qualifies bionicspider: but... stichure: heheeh bionicspider: For one of the symbols, I choose the arms for the protagonist stichure: Explain please bionicspider: The family did not take crap from anybody, no one could provoke them... bionicspider: The arms... bionicspider: A serpent whose fangs are imbedded in the heel of a person bionicspider: is symbolic of revenge bionicspider: you can't provoke a snake without a reaction stichure: Which is Fortunato... the snake or the foot bionicspider: The foot t_ra_ce: the snake stichure: Actually, both answers can be correct... it depends on that you explain them. I want you both to explain them in one complete paragraph t_ra_ce: right now? stichure: Right now stichure: in other words, put your answer in one message bionicspider: A human foot wanders a field, a snake usually won't attack unless acted upon...the protagonist would be the snake because the "foot" Fortunato has stumbled upone the snake stichure: How does the foot also fit Fortunato, spider bionicspider: Fortunato insulted the protag... stichure: Describe the foot according to the story bionicspider: A huge human foot in a field azure; the foot curshes a serpent rampant whose fangs are imbedded in the heel stichure: There is a word missing in describing the huge humanfoot bionicspider: foot d'or bionicspider: I am unfamiliar with what that means stichure: Oro stichure: ore stichure: gold stichure: Does that fit the symbolism bionicspider: d'or = gold? stichure: Yes bionicspider: Yes that does stichure: Explained bionicspider: If it was a golden foot, fortunato was described as posh stichure: Okay... race... explain it the other way stichure: In mind that the golden foot would then belong to the narrator t_ra_ce: In the short story, "The Cask of Amontillado", a coat of arms is utilized in symbolization. The coat of arms of the family, Montresor, is "(a) huge human foot d'or, in a field azure; the foot crushes a serpent rampant whose fangs are imbedded in the heel." (Poe, 711) The character, Fortunato is representative of the snake symbolically in that the family motto characterizes provocation. The foot crushes the serpent; therefore it represented Montresor. Montresor was dutifully fulfilling his family motto in revenge for Fortunato's injuries on Montresor in the past. Just as the foot in the coat of arms crushes the serpent, Montresor crushes Fortunato's spirit by walling Fortunato in the catacombs of Montresor's forefathers. stichure: Very nice stichure: Both of you stichure: Which dies first stichure: Foot or snake bionicspider: Foot t_ra_ce: snake stichure: And how does that fit in context of the story bionicspider: When you describe as a "snake" they are usually "sneaky", the way that Montresor exacted his revenge was very tricky and sneaky t_ra_ce: "For the love of God, Montresor!" "Yes, I said for the love of God!" "But to these words I harkened in vain for reply..." t_ra_ce: Fortunato's spirit died before he actually succumbed stichure: Yes but let's make it clear that Fortunato did not die until later stichure: To one of those works well as long as you explain it clearly stichure: either one stichure: This was a symbol or irony or both stichure: If this is Irony, label it t_ra_ce: situational irony stichure: Very good stichure: Another symbol or irony please t_ra_ce: as well as symbol stichure: Yes t_ra_ce: Amontillado stichure: Explained stichure: What is and what it means t_ra_ce: situational irony and symbol stichure: Explain place stichure: Please t_ra_ce: unresolved. yet title of the tale and the characters' quest t_ra_ce: a mirage in the desert bionicspider: verbal irony - "Pass your hand over the wall; you cannot help feeling the nither. Indeed it is very damp. Once more let me impore you to return." zoochikk has joined the conference. zoochikk: hello stichure: hey zoo stichure: We are discussing the test zoochikk: ok stichure: Race, it is unwise to explain a symbol by using a metaphor stichure: Explain why that is verbal irony, spider t_ra_ce: darn bionicspider: Mont. says this knowing that Fortunato is bound with chains bionicspider: There is no chance of Fort. returning with Mont. stichure: Very good spider stichure: Zoo we are sharing a what we wrote on the test stichure: shar a symbol or irony zoochikk: how did most do? zoochikk: the part when Montressor toasts Fortunato's long life ??Is that verbal irony? zoochikk: or dramatic? or neither..haha stichure: Compared to how\ most classes do with this story, very well zoochikk: good to hear! stichure: You tell me.... explained zoochikk: id say verbal stichure: Race, respond again and don't give me a metaphor to explain the symbol stichure: Good answer... why zoochikk: he is speaking it, and it is one person saying one thing and meaning something else t_ra_ce: I said that it was a situational irony in the test stichure: Tell me specifically why Montresor's words are verbal irony stichure: Give me entirety of its meaning though, race t_ra_ce: Honestly, I don't remember exactly what I said...will try, though stichure: Please do... stichure: Spider, give me another one stichure: Zoo, give me another one bionicspider: another verbal irony - "we will go back;your health is precious." stichure: Explain why zoochikk: when he says that he is a mason stichure: Explain, zoo zoochikk: Montressor says he is a mason...that is verbal stichure: Why bionicspider: Mont's ultimate intentions are make fortunato suffer and then eventually die, caring about ones health becomes irrelavant when ones dead zoochikk: saying one thing but meaning another stichure: Good spider zoochikk: I had to laugh at Montressors dark sense of humor on that one zoochikk: hehe stichure: Zoo, you're being a little short answered stichure: I thought it was a very funny story zoochikk: he pulled a trowel from under his coat stichure: And zoochikk: i am not sure how I am supposed to answer? zoochikk: please..give me an example zoochikk: stichure: To explain I, you must explain what is expected and then what is the unexpected or ironic result zoochikk: ok stichure: bionicspider: another verbal irony - "we will go back;your health is precious." bionicspider: Mont's ultimate intentions are make fortunato suffer and then eventually die, caring about ones health becomes irrelavant when ones dead stichure: Expectation... caring about one's health means that you care about their health... the reality is montrsor is going to kill the person he claims to worry about stichure: now you try, zoo zoochikk: wow! that's good stichure: heheh stichure: Thanks zoochikk: In the end, when he says "pace requiescat" (rest in peace) Another name for a monastic prison is "in pace" it's a very secure prison..what else do i need to say again? zoochikk: oh yeah, I got that from a 2nd source stichure: I'm glad you said that zoochikk: hehehe stichure: I think a lot of people look this up zoochikk: i don't remember where though stichure: And of course, if you cannot explain what you read, it made your essay worse stichure: Why is that ironic stichure: What you locate your exit exam you will not know who the other or title is and therefore you will not be it will look anything up stichure: Be able stichure: You will not know author or title zoochikk: that is why i didn't touch that one with a 10 foot pole...i don't know why..i left that out of my test even though i knew it was some irony in it. t_ra_ce: The Amontillado represents situational irony in that it remains unresolved. Montresor utilizes the Amontillado as a ploy to keep Fortuanto's interest. Montresor puts the burden of proof to Fortunato, "I have my doubts...and I was silly enough to pay the full Amontillado price without consulting you in the matter..." (Poe, 709) It symbolizes a mirage (for lack of a better word -- it was the best that I could come up with). The Amontillado does not materialize the entire story. Yet it is the focal point of the story. As well, Amontillado is the title of the tale leading to belief that it is important to the message. As well, being walled in, and facing his demise, Fortunato believes that the Amontillado will still materialize. "...(Y)es, the Amontillado. But is it not getting l zoochikk: woo wee stichure: Race, I am still looking for symbol t_ra_ce: late? Will not they be awaiting us at the palazzo..." (Poe, 714) t_ra_ce: unattainable? stichure: That is only symbolic if something else is unattainable stichure: Describe what amontillado is stichure: Specifically stichure: The author chose that purposely bionicspider: a dry spanish sherry wine t_ra_ce: an expensive brandy -- stichure: What does dry mean in reference to wine stichure: Actually, race its sherry t_ra_ce: not sweet stichure: very good zoochikk: Can i ask something, does anyone know why Montressor had it out for Fortunato? I found it difficult to clearly understand the way Poe writes. zoochikk: dry is the taste bionicspider: zoochikk: Fort. insulted Mont. stichure: After the what montresor looking for that is sweet stichure: That is it spider t_ra_ce: sweet revenge bionicspider: sweet sweet revenge stichure: Make the point zoochikk: ty bionic stichure: Does the amontillado exist t_ra_ce: in mind only stichure: Is the revenge sweet zoochikk: is it mountains of spain t_ra_ce: didn't it make Montresor sick? stichure: Are not following you zoo zoochikk: sorry.. stichure: Yes race stichure: So answer the question t_ra_ce: Montresor does not even find the Amontillado stichure: Why did he author choose amontillado t_ra_ce: it is unattainable t_ra_ce: rare stichure: There are two things going here stichure: montresor never had amontillado... it was a ploy to fool fortunato bionicspider: Mont knew that Fort was arrogant enough to try to verify its authenticity stichure: The second, though it is that the rare dry nature of amontillado is a reflection of montresor's situation stichure: For what purpose spider zoochikk: and since fortunato has a taste for alcohol montresso knew he couldn't resist stichure: Does Fortunato believe it exists stichure: It's bigger than that, zoo bionicspider: It was the invisible cheese in the rat trap bionicspider: the cheese that was never really there t_ra_ce: not at first he thinks montresor is lying bionicspider: for retribution stichure: Spider... you're correct but avoid that kind of metaphor stichure: Not lying zoochikk: Im always reminding myself of that..dig dig deeper stichure: He doesn't think the narrator is lying stichure: He thinks... what? t_ra_ce: montresor got rooked? stichure: Of course stichure: Why would he bothered to leave his party? zoochikk: something in it for him??? zoochikk: that is probabley not correct stichure: What kind of person is Fortunato bionicspider: Because he didn't want Mont to go to Luchesi bionicspider: arrogant stichure: You right, but that is so vague that it is not helpful stichure: Your closer spider zoochikk: boastful stichure: Yes zoochikk: b.s.er(hehe) stichure: Why does he want to be the one to point out that the narrator got ripped off t_ra_ce: prideful zoochikk: yup bionicspider: Fort. never liked Mont and he wanted to gloat zoochikk: Fort. feels "above" Montressor...talks down to him stichure: Very good spider stichure: Exactly a zoo stichure: Is simply it zoochikk: His family is above Montressor's stichure: so, what really killed Fortunato zoochikk: pride zoochikk: arrogance and vanity did it stichure: Third time is the charm zoo zoochikk: hehe stichure: You are correct bionicspider: Could it also be that Fortunato knew about Monts "arms", about their family history...he got off on being "above" them? stichure: More symbols and ironies please zoochikk: hehe stichure: Actually, the fact that he forgot is ironic bionicspider: ah zoochikk: snake bitting the heel bionicspider: he did forget about it zoochikk: what is with the talk of niter over and over stichure: What is nitre zoochikk: i know what it is zoochikk: makes bullets zoochikk: gunpower zoochikk: powder stichure: That is one stichure: What else bionicspider: potasssium nitrate zoochikk: but they talk of it "hanging" like moss bionicspider: saltpepper t_ra_ce: verbal irony -- "My dear Fortunato, you are luckily met. How remarkably well you are looking today!" (Poe, 709) zoochikk: does it grow that way?\ stichure: Spider? stichure: Explain race bionicspider: yes? stichure: I don't understand salt Pepper zoochikk: me neither bionicspider: A white, gray, or colorless mineral of potassium nitrate, KNO3, used in making gunpowder. Also called saltpeter. bionicspider: got that from dictionary.com zoochikk: i didn't wanna say anything though bionicspider: oh saltpeter zoochikk: hahahaha' stichure: saltPeter.... t_ra_ce: utilazation of bravado and flattery by Montresor to fortunato to show false goodwill stichure: Also used for what zoochikk: i thought it said salt and pepper bionicspider: me too bionicspider: I'm so lame stichure: How is Montresor Lucky zoochikk: stichure: saltpeter according to myth, has been used in prisons for a long time for a specific purpose bionicspider: does it keep things moist? t_ra_ce: down, spider t_ra_ce: keeps 'em down stichure: hehehe stichure: Yes... it causes impotence bionicspider: I see stichure: Apply symbolically to the story stichure: What does Montresor want from Fortunato stichure: What does he want to do to him zoochikk: haha stichure: Keep it clean, zoo stichure: What does potent mean zoochikk: t_ra_ce: montresor lucky because he had given no clue to fortunato prior to undoing. ""neither by word nor deed had I given Fortunato cause to doubt my good will" zoochikk: strong t_ra_ce: are we on another topic now? bionicspider: able to perform sexual intercourse stichure: Race, more obvious... in what condition and what situation does a fine Fortunato stichure: Does Montresor find Fortunato t_ra_ce: with a cough zoochikk: a bit tipsy, too stichure: potent refers to powerful, sexually or otherwise stichure: Race... zoo... why would Montresor be lucky to find Fortunato that way stichure: There's one other aspect zoochikk: take advantage zoochikk: of him stichure: Exactly stichure: Who is with Fortunato? t_ra_ce: alone zoochikk: montressor stichure: Why is that lucky zoochikk: He has him all to himself...just a buzzed fortunato and zoochikk: no one else around bionicspider: no witnesses for monty t_ra_ce: easier to take control zoochikk: the catacombs..hehe stichure: There you go zoochikk: it's the same when a guy tries to get his girl buzzed and a little out of it, then he can have his way with her stichure: Of course zoochikk: ain't nobody gonna know stichure: What are they wearing zoochikk: not that I would know from experience or anything..haha zoochikk: his rolaque zoochikk: ?? stichure: indeed t_ra_ce: fortunato--party clothes ... Montresor --black mask stichure: What is that bionicspider: bells on Fortunato stichure: Fortunato specifically zoochikk: couldn't find that in the dictionary t_ra_ce: cloak stichure: Specifically zoochikk: haha zoochikk: bells on his hat like a jester stichure: Yes Race... stichure: Yes zoo stichure: What it is Fortunato dressed like? t_ra_ce: a court jester zoochikk: a villan stichure: And how is it symbiotic and how is it ironic t_ra_ce: stripes zoochikk: with a cloak and his trusty trowel stichure: OK stichure: For the poor people who have to read this bionicspider: the jokes on Fortunato at the end stichure: One at a time stichure: Fortunato first stichure: Please start now zoochikk: villan always wear stripes zoochikk: ?? stichure: How is he dressed specifically and how does that make ironic and symbolic sense stichure: no zoo t_ra_ce: symboilc -- fortunato cause the joke is on him -- court jester also stripes become imprisoned bionicspider: Fortunato wore a black mask - black is usually associated with death zoochikk: a jester..is a playtoy for rich people..make them laugh stichure: Race, better answer stichure: Splatter... that did not happen stichure: Spider stichure: I did not happen stichure: yeesh zoochikk: hehee stichure: Spider, that did not happen bionicspider: What did not happen? stichure: Fortunato did not wear a black mask zoochikk: to much nitre stichure: Montresor did bionicspider: Didn't he wear a black silk mask for his cough? bionicspider: oh stichure: No bionicspider: my mistake zoochikk: i just remember the hats description stichure: It's OK bionicspider: What about this, Mont. wore a black mask - like an executioner stichure: Fortunato is dressed as a fool zoochikk: yessssssss t_ra_ce: yes zoochikk: that is what i thought stichure: Fortunato normally treat others as fools... he expects to make a fool out of Montresor ... stichure: He becomes the fool stichure: What kind irony is that t_ra_ce: situational zoochikk: he thinks he is the bomb zoochikk: and he thinks montressor is the fool stichure: A good race stichure: Yes zoo stichure: I'm looking for labels stichure: Montresor is dressed in a black cloak and a silk hood stichure: He is dressed as... zoochikk: grim reaper t_ra_ce: yes stichure: Very good zoo zoochikk: death be knocking on fortunatos door stichure: How is that I run zoochikk: i run too stichure: sort of zoochikk: hehe stichure: How is that ironic t_ra_ce: situational stichure: Actually, that is correct, but it could be another stichure: It depends on you explained stichure: On how you explain it zoochikk: one could take the story differently in the beginning...Fortunato seems to have the upper hand, whereas Montressor looks like the weakling zoochikk: then the story twists zoochikk: that is situatiojnal iron there is an incongruity between appearance and reality stichure: did Montresor do that on purpose zoochikk: yes zoochikk: played dumb zoochikk: put fortunato on a platform stichure: Because... zoochikk: kisses his bottom a little...makes him out to be someone of importance stichure: Could he have directly asked Fortunato for a favor stichure: You're correct zoo zoochikk: he wants to get him right where he needs to be zoochikk: drunk and alone stichure: Could he have asked Fortunato for a favor zoochikk: so he can kill him zoochikk: ? stichure: Was he in position to do so zoochikk: i guess stichure: Try again zoochikk: no stichure: Why not zoochikk: fortunato would have laughed stichure: Of course zoochikk: haaa...u want my time u little peon?? zoochikk: spelled peon right?? stichure: How does Montresor lure Fortunato into the trap stichure: Yes, you did zoochikk: perfectly t_ra_ce: ask for help zoochikk: fortunato was easy prey t_ra_ce: determine if amontillado really amontillado stichure: Race... does he asked Fortunato for help stichure: Ever zoochikk: alcohol lowered his imbibitions and poor judgement bionicspider: Mont. gives Fort. incentive by threating to go to Luchensi stichure: Yes spider t_ra_ce: preyed on vanity of fortunato stichure: In fact stichure: How many times does Montresor Tell Fortunato to go back home t_ra_ce: countless times zoochikk: he gives him several opportunities stichure: Irony? zoochikk: Did anyone get the feeling that Fortunato was a little on the "sissy" or crybaby side? I did. When he gives Montressor his arm to clutch onto as they walk stichure: He is sick stichure: He is drunk stichure: He is of high social status zoochikk: a pris stichure: stichure: Fortunato normally treat others as fools... he expects to make a fool out of Montresor ... stichure: He becomes the fool stichure: What kind irony is that t_ra_ce: situational zoochikk: dramatic stichure: Someone define dramatic area for me please stichure: Explain stichure: Both correct stichure: Explain zoochikk: expressed in thought zoochikk: someone speaking t_ra_ce: when a character says something which actually foreshadows outcome of events without knowing it -- dramatic irony stichure: Run answer, raw agrees and zoomed stichure: Right answer, wrong reason, zoo zoochikk: an incongruity or discrepancy between what a character sas or thinks and what the reader stichure: Actually, race there's another aspect stichure: Yes, zoom stichure: hhe stichure: thionks zoochikk: knows to be true zoochikk: zoom..haha stichure: A situational if you merely point out that Fortunato is dressed as a foll and will be made a fuoll stichure: If you point out what Fortunato thought he was going to do, to become dramatic stichure: You understand this distinction stichure: ? zoochikk: yes.. t_ra_ce: that fortunato thought he was to find the amontillado actually sherry it would be ironic dramatically? bionicspider: If were to go to the store and expect to buy an apple, but end up buying a pear...is that dramatic irony? t_ra_ce: that fortunato dressed a fool and made the fool and made others to be fools in the past inc. montresor situational irony? stichure: I don't follow , race .....rephrase your question stichure: No, spider stichure: Changing a person's mind is not irony in and of itself stichure: If it goes against everything you ever believed in, that would-be irony bionicspider: I see zoochikk: the name Fortunato ..that is irony too stichure: yes race stichure: Especially since we realize that is likely the type of insult that is going to be the reason for his demise stichure: Explains zoo and label zoochikk: Fortunato=fortunate..not in his case zoochikk: ok zoochikk: The name Fortunato(meaning fortunate) that is verbal irony stichure: No zoo bionicspider: verbal must be spoken stichure: How is that verbal? t_ra_ce: i thought it situational irony stichure: Thank you stichure: Yes race stichure: Only what context zoochikk: it is a figure of speech because what is said is the opposite of what is meant stichure: Thanks, is Fortunato a fortunate person up to the point that we meet him stichure: zooo stichure: said stichure: Requires dialogue stichure: Or at least a first-person narrative zoochikk: or dramatic irony vecause there is a discrepancy between t_ra_ce: he turns out to be most unfortunate stichure: Start with the symbolism first zoochikk: isn't that what i said stichure: Is he a, up to this point, a person who matches his name zoochikk: i know he is NOT very fottunate,, stichure: Fortunato is a person's name, zoo bionicspider: in the beginning he seems to be very fortunate stichure: Is not what somebody said per se stichure: Yes spider zoochikk: it sounds just like fortunate though t_ra_ce: yes zoochikk: and he is not fortunate stichure: The irony works only if you establish the symbol first zoochikk: the symbol is? stichure: Has Fortunato been fortunate? zoochikk: no zoochikk: not at all stichure: Rich stichure: Respected zoochikk: oh t_ra_ce: yes -- fortunate stichure: Admired stichure: Loved stichure: As I once was stichure: Yes t_ra_ce: a virtuoso zoochikk: I am thinking of the time I stichure: You must establish that first and then the irony is at the end of the story zoochikk: got to know his character stichure: He becomes unfortunate zoochikk: i see stichure: Part of this kind of analysis requires you to slow down t_ra_ce: stop and smell the niter zoochikk: i see zoochikk: haha stichure: Give me a single idea and explain it fully rather than giving me a series of release or symbols that are only partially discussed stichure: A series of ironies or symbols stichure: hhew stichure: Or at least feel it zoochikk: ok i felt it. stichure: heheh zoochikk: i see where i goofed stichure: other ironies or symbols? stichure: I'm going to offer a makeup test. It will be on the guest by Albert Camus stichure: It will likely be next week zoochikk: the names of the other characters stichure: Symbolism, I or conflict stichure: Irony or conflict stichure: We will discuss conflict right now zoochikk: symbols stichure: There are three types of conflict stichure: Men versus Man... a conflict between two characters stichure: Rainsford versus Zaroff stichure: Jake versus Mariana stichure: Scratchy versus Potter stichure: porter versus Potter stichure: Sylvia versus Ms. Moore zoochikk: montressor vs. fortunato? stichure: Exactly stichure: The next is stichure: Men versus self... an internal conflict stichure: whitney conflicted over hunting stichure: Potter conflicted over marriage zoochikk: montressor wants revenge zoochikk: that is conflict, right? stichure: No stichure: Not in and of itself zoochikk: oh stichure: It has to be a conflict between two things stichure: How does he feel about killing Fortunato zoochikk: happy bionicspider: It's his duty zoochikk: looks forward to it bionicspider: to save face for his family stichure: How do the revenge go overall? stichure: Everything go as planned zoochikk: he built his thing and left him in it t_ra_ce: i do not think montressor expected fortunato to talk with him as he walled him up zoochikk: ya..that freaked him out a little stichure: We will discuss this story more next Monday and we will discuss the final paper next Monday t_ra_ce: as well i do not think montresor expected to feel sick about it zoochikk: ok stichure: But I want you to reread the cask amontillado stichure: And ask yourself whether or not the three items for successful revenge are taken care of stichure: They are listed at the beginning of the story zoochikk: the guest test will replace the cask grade? stichure: Actually, your lowest test grade stichure: Whichever it is zoochikk: uggh t_ra_ce: guest test? did i miss something? zoochikk: scroll up race t_ra_ce: okay stichure: It will be posted a message board t_ra_ce: probably when prof had us writing paragraphs stichure: hheh stichure: It's not there yet zoochikk: hehe what kind of irnoy is that? stichure: It's not cabralesaudrey has joined the conference. cabralesaudrey: am I too late. zoochikk: stichure: Unfortunately Audrey, yes cabralesaudrey: Sorry - see you tomorrow - it was my mother in law's birthday dinner tonight. stichure: Don't want To miss that stichure: Have a good everybody. Tests are graded. stichure: Week t_ra_ce: thank you for your time, prof. eiland t_ra_ce: have a good week cabralesaudrey: cool - "poof" (stichure 1 ) zoochikk: goodnight you guys..in pace requiste bionicspider: Ok, ty Prof. Eiland zoochikk: hehe stichure: thabnk YOU zoochikk: night Professor t_ra_ce: can't see anything about a guest test -- scrolled up and don't see it stichure: Thanks, zoo stichure: It's just one line, race bionicspider: stichure: I'm going to offer a makeup test. It will be on the guest by Albert Camus stichure: Thank you spider zoochikk: we are to read the guest and be tested on it next week t_ra_ce: okay spider, thanks bionicspider: Good Night everybody stichure: take care audrey t_ra_ce: great stichure: see you in class bionicspider: oh, when will paper 2 be graded prof? t_ra_ce: good night all stichure: By spider zoochikk: audrey>> cabralesaudrey has left the conference. zoochikk: ??? zoochikk: kristina stichure: grading them now bionicspider: okie stichure: By Friday stichure: I hope zoochikk: adios zoochikk has left the conference. stichure: ciao stichure: By race stichure: By spider bionicspider has left the con just conversation ference. stichure: poof t_ra_ce: bye now t_ra_ce has left the conference.